Welcome to the Disability Labs Podcast Network (DLPN) — a collaborative audio hub where educators, therapists, curriculum designers, and purpose-driven creators come together to amplify the voices of students who learn differently.

Founded by Cheri Dotterer, occupational therapist and host of The Writing Glitch, Tier 1 Interventions, and The Purpose-Filled Teacher, LDPN is a one-of-a-kind space uniting podcasts dedicated to the science, stories, and strategies behind learning disabilities like dyslexia, dysgraphia, dyscalculia, ADHD, and more.

Whether you're a parent seeking hope, a teacher searching for effective tools, or a clinician committed to making a difference, LDPN offers expert interviews, hands-on interventions, and personal breakthroughs that go beyond labels. We don’t just talk about learning struggles—we provide real, neuroscience-based solutions that ignite potential and reimagine possibility.

Through our network of independently hosted shows, we foster collaboration, spark innovation, and empower leaders in the field of learning support. LDPN is also home to a new generation of teacherpreneurs and educators called to create impact while staying rooted in purpose.

Want to launch your own podcast within the LDPN family? We're looking for mission-aligned creators to join us. If your podcast explores learning differences and inclusive education, there’s a seat at our table.

Latest Episodes

Why students Zone Out constantly

Students aren’t zoning out because they’re bored — they’re zoning out because their brains literally can’t do what we’re asking them to do.In this episode, Cheri Dotterer, MS, OTR, and math leader Jonily break down the neuroscience behind attention, dopamine, novelty, and why every classroom hits the same predictable “zoning-out moment.”You’ll learn:Why students can only focus for their age in minutesThe 7-second dopamine cycle that sabotages attentionWhy novelty (singing, movement, humor) instantly resets the brainWhy music activates learning before visual or auditory channelsWhy rectangles are the single most powerful structure in mathHow interleaving and iteration outperform linear teachingHow skip-counting by 12s rewires numerical fluencyWhy U.S. math scores suffer — and how to fix it tomorrowIf you’ve ever asked, “Why do my students suddenly check out?” — this episode is the answer. Drop your favorite math jingles in the comments.👉 Want to experience the full workshop? You can sign up to experience one workshop for just $47. The link is here.https://disabilitylabs.com/live-webinar/mastery-math-method-dec2025/register⏱️ Chapters00:00 — Welcome to Tier One Interventions00:22 — Why focus equals age in minutes01:05 — The 7-second dopamine attention loop01:40 — Students WANT to focus but their brains can’t02:10 — Novelty triggers that instantly reset attention03:25 — Why music activates learning before anything else03:54 — Math jingles that rewire memory04:28 — Why skip-counting by 12s accelerates mastery05:08 — Rectangles: the most powerful structure in math05:45 — Whisper counting + dot arrays for deep understanding06:30 — The “loud number” mistake and why it’s productive07:30 — Iteration vs. repetition: the real difference08:18 — Interleaving: the brain’s preferred learning method09:05 — Jumping from 2 twelves to 12 twelves (nonlinear learning)10:05 — Why U.S. math scores are failing11:30 — The winning formula: structure + novelty + repetition12:05 — Wrap-up and $47 workshop invitation🎯 Ready to Change Math Outcomes in 10 Days?👉 Join our FREE Masterclass for school leaders, teachers, and OTs: https://disabilitylabs.com/calendar🎧 Prefer to Listen On the Go?SpotifyApple PodcastsAmazon/Audible🔗 Stay Connected🌐 Website: https://disabilitylabs.com/courses/mastery-math-bundle 📧 Disability Labs Community: https://disabilitylabs.com/community/3d-learning-lounge-1🎙️ Credits: Host: Cheri Dotterer Co-Host: Jonily Zupancic Production: Disability Labs Podcast Network🧠 Resources Mentioned:Mastery Math Method Level One (Lifetime Access): https://disabilitylabs.com/courses/mastery-math-bundleMastery Math Method Level Two (Annual Subscription): https://disabilitylabs.com/courses/mastery-math-method-group-coaching⚠️ Disclaimer: The content shared in this video is for educational purposes only and does not replace your district’s policies or individualized education plans. Always consult with your instructional team before implementing new strategies.🏷️ Hashtags#MathIsMessy #Tier1Interventions #MasteryMathMethod #BrainBasedLearning #REWIREMethod #OTinSchools #TeacherMindset

WHY Your Math Curriculum Isn’t Working

If you’ve ever wondered why your students still don’t “get” math—even with all the new textbooks, intervention programs, small groups, apps, and training—this episode will change everything.In today’s conversation, Cheri and Jonily pull back the curtain on the brutal truth:👉 The problem isn’t your students. The problem isn’t you. The problem is the system.Math scores across the U.S. have crashed to historic lows. Tier 2 and Tier 3 groups are overflowing. Teachers are exhausted. Kids are frustrated. And the curriculum you were handed is not built to fix any of it.Inside this episode, you’ll learn:🔸 The REAL reason your math curriculum keeps failing 🔸 Why “teaching harder” never moves the needle 🔸 How mental load, attention spans, and dopamine shape learning 🔸 Why rhythm, novelty, and movement unlock mathematical thinking 🔸 How lockers, rectangles, and pizzas explain EVERYTHING about math success 🔸 The shocking data from real classrooms (54% → 84%, 27% → 60%, and more) 🔸 Why 3rd graders can learn so much more than we think 🔸 What schools must change NOW to reverse the declineThis isn’t another “curriculum review.” This is the root cause of the math crisis in America—and the brain-based pathway out of it.If you’ve ever sat in your classroom thinking, “Why aren’t they getting it? What am I missing?” …this episode will finally give you the answer.👉 Want to experience the full workshop? You can sign up to experience one workshop for just $47. The link is here.https://disabilitylabs.com/live-webinar/mastery-math-method-dec2025/register⏱️ Chapters00:00 – Welcome to Tier One Interventions Podcast00:28 – Why today’s session starts at a higher math level01:00 – Why Tier 1—not Tier 3—is the real issue02:00 – The rising crisis of U.S. math scores03:10 – Why kids “don’t get math” (and it’s not aptitude)04:05 – Why Tier 2 and Tier 3 are overloaded05:00 – What Tier One Interventions actually solve06:20 – Evidence from real classrooms: 54% → 84%, 27% → 60%, and more07:45 – Second graders eliminating all “red/yellow” scores in 6 weeks09:15 – Why this workshop series matters10:05 – Connecting Mastery Math Method to today’s episode11:00 – Lockers, Rectangles, Pizzas… and why it works11:30 – Using music and rhythm to re-trigger attention12:20 – The neuroscience of rhythm-based learning13:00 – Crossing midline, movement, rhythm, and subconscious learning14:10 – How 14-year-olds signal when their brains need novelty15:00 – Lighting, environmental shifts, and novelty triggers16:00 – The attention-span research that guides your timing16:55 – Episode wrap-up + teaser for next week17:10 – CTA: Experience one workshop for $47🎯 Ready to Change Math Outcomes in 10 Days?👉 Join our FREE Masterclass for school leaders, teachers, and OTs: https://disabilitylabs.com/calendar🎧 Prefer to Listen On the Go?SpotifyApple PodcastsAmazon/Audible🔗 Stay Connected🌐 Website: https://disabilitylabs.com/courses/mastery-math-bundle 📧 Disability Labs Community: https://disabilitylabs.com/community/3d-learning-lounge-1🎙️ Credits: Host: Cheri Dotterer Co-Host: Jonily Zupancic Production: Disability Labs Podcast Network🧠 Resources Mentioned:Mastery Math Method Level One (Lifetime Access): https://disabilitylabs.com/courses/mastery-math-bundleMastery Math Method Level Two (Annual Subscription): https://disabilitylabs.com/courses/mastery-math-method-group-coaching⚠️ Disclaimer: The content shared in this video is for educational purposes only and does not replace your district’s policies or individualized education plans. Always consult with your instructional team before implementing new strategies.🏷️ Hashtags#MathIsMessy #Tier1Interventions #MasteryMathMethod #BrainBasedLearning #REWIREMethod #OTinSchools #TeacherMindset

Stop Teaching the Textbook

What if your students begged to keep doing math? In this Level 2 session of the Mastery Math Method, Cheri Dotterer and Jonily Zupancic show you how to break free from the textbook and make math feel like a game again.You’ll see how:A simple Locker Problem can teach double-digit multiplicationReference tasks connect creativity to fourth-grade standardsInterleaving and spaced practice help every student retain what they learnAnd why giving yourself permission to ditch the worksheet changes everything🎓 Join the next Mastery Math Method Masterclass → disabilitylabs.com/calendar✨ Takeaway: Learning isn’t about control — it’s about connection, curiosity, and courage to make a mess before mastery.💬 Drop your thoughts and experiences in the comments—start the conversation and build the movement because every student deserves to feel like a mathematician.🔔 Subscribe for more Tier 1 math interventions, strategies, and training. 📅 Join the next Masterclass → https://disabilitylabs.com/calendar💬 COMMENT BELOW: What’s YOUR take on starting with division?⏱️ Chapters00:00 Welcome – Level 2 Mastery Math Method00:40 From Locker Problem to Double-Digit Multiplication01:35 Why Reference Tasks Change Everything03:10 Skip-Counting → Multiplying → Connecting Standards04:20 Interleaving and Spaced Practice in Real Classrooms06:05 Teacher Reactions – Level Up Mindset07:10 Students Love Thinking Math08:15 From Overwhelmed to Empowered09:00 How to Join the Mastery Math Masterclass11:00 Closing – For Such a Time as This🎯 Ready to Change Math Outcomes in 10 Days?👉 Join our FREE Masterclass for school leaders, teachers, and OTs: https://disabilitylabs.com/calendar🎧 Prefer to Listen On the Go?SpotifyApple PodcastsAmazon/Audible🔗 Stay Connected🌐 Website: https://disabilitylabs.com/courses/mastery-math-bundle 📧 Disability Labs Community: https://disabilitylabs.com/community/3d-learning-lounge-1🎙️ Credits: Host: Cheri Dotterer Co-Host: Jonily Zupancic Production: Disability Labs Podcast Network🧠 Resources Mentioned:Mastery Math Method Level One (Lifetime Access): https://disabilitylabs.com/courses/mastery-math-bundleMastery Math Method Level Two (Annual Subscription): https://disabilitylabs.com/courses/mastery-math-method-group-coaching⚠️ Disclaimer: The content shared in this video is for educational purposes only and does not replace your district’s policies or individualized education plans. Always consult with your instructional team before implementing new strategies.🏷️ Hashtags#MathIsMessy #Tier1Interventions #MasteryMathMethod #BrainBasedLearning #REWIREMethod #OTinSchools #TeacherMindset

You Can't Rush Math Art

Math is messy — and that’s precisely how mastery begins.In this Tier 1 Interventions episode, Cheri Dotterer and Jonily Zupancic challenge the myth that math (and writing) should be neat, orderly, and always “on the line.” From the Locker Problem to real-world classroom stories, they model how productive chaos and productive struggle help students think critically, notice patterns, and build an accurate understanding of numbers.🧠 Inside this episode: • Why “messy math” is essential for deep learning • How to turn student drafts into tools for reflection • The OT perspective on movement and memory • The three types of bilateral integration and how they re-engage the brain • What “You can’t rush math art” really means for teachers✨ Takeaway: Learning isn’t about control — it’s about connection, curiosity, and courage to make a mess before mastery.💬 Drop your thoughts and experiences in the comments—start the conversation and build the movement because every student deserves to feel like a mathematician.🔔 Subscribe for more Tier 1 math interventions, strategies, and training. 📅 Join the next Masterclass → https://disabilitylabs.com/calendar💬 COMMENT BELOW: What’s YOUR take on starting with division?⏱️ Chapters00:00 – Welcome to Tier 1 Interventions00:40 – What Makes Mastery Math Different01:15 – Why Math Must Be Messy02:30 – The Type-A Teacher Trap03:45 – Draft-1 Thinking: Messy Before Mastery05:20 – Framing the Chaos: Learning From Mistakes07:00 – What Do You Notice? Pattern Spotting in Action09:30 – The OT’s Secret: Move to Remember11:50 – Three Types of Bilateral Integration Explained13:40 – When Planning Gets in the Way of Learning15:10 – The Locker 11 Revelation17:15 – “If I Say It, They Hear It — If They Say It, They Learn It”19:20 – Turning Observation Into Ownership21:00 – The 12 Song: Rhythm Meets Math Fluency23:40 – “You Can’t Rush Math Art” — Lessons From Toy Story25:30 – When Students Finally See the Pattern26:30 – Wrap-Up: Messy Learning Creates Mastery🎯 Ready to Change Math Outcomes in 10 Days?👉 Join our FREE Masterclass for school leaders, teachers, and OTs: https://disabilitylabs.com/calendar🎧 Prefer to Listen On the Go?SpotifyApple PodcastsAmazon/Audible🔗 Stay Connected🌐 Website: https://disabilitylabs.com/courses/mastery-math-bundle 📧 Disability Labs Community: https://disabilitylabs.com/community/3d-learning-lounge-1🎙️ Credits: Host: Cheri Dotterer Co-Host: Jonily Zupancic Production: Disability Labs Podcast Network🧠 Resources Mentioned:Mastery Math Method Level One (Lifetime Access): https://disabilitylabs.com/courses/mastery-math-bundleMastery Math Method Level Two (Annual Subscription): https://disabilitylabs.com/courses/mastery-math-method-group-coaching⚠️ Disclaimer: The content shared in this video is for educational purposes only and does not replace your district’s policies or individualized education plans. Always consult with your instructional team before implementing new strategies.🏷️ Hashtags#MathIsMessy #Tier1Interventions #MasteryMathMethod #BrainBasedLearning #REWIREMethod #OTinSchools #TeacherMindset

Teach Math Like a Play

What if your math lessons felt more like a story than a worksheet? In this episode of Tier 1 Interventions, Cheri Dotterer and Jonily Zupancic reveal how to teach math like a play — using the power of storytelling to captivate every student.Discover how the Three-Act Math Story (Act 1 Hook • Act 2 Story • Act 3 Offer) transforms problem-solving into curiosity-driven learning. You’ll hear how teachers spark engagement with focus triggers like “Tell me about…” and nonverbal cues such as spirit fingers and jazz hands — all while keeping math meaningful, memorable, and fun.🎭 Because when math class has a plot, every student becomes part of the story.💬 Drop your thoughts and experiences in the comments—start the conversation and build the movement because every student deserves to feel like a mathematician.🔔 Subscribe for more Tier 1 math interventions, strategies, and training. 📅 Join the next Masterclass → https://disabilitylabs.com/calendar💬 COMMENT BELOW: What’s YOUR take on starting with division?⏱️ Chapters00:00 Welcome to Tier 1 Interventions  00:38 Why Students Stop Thinking  02:06 The Three-Act Math Play  03:56 The Natalie Strategy: Get Every Student Talking  06:25 Leveling the Playing Field  08:05 Every Kid Has an Entry Point  10:18 Teach Like a Champion in Math Class  13:05 Hook • Story • Offer for Teachers  14:56 Spirit Fingers vs Jazz Hands 😂  19:56 Tangents That Teach  21:24 Preview: Double-Digit Multiplication  🎯 Ready to Change Math Outcomes in 10 Days?👉 Join our FREE Masterclass for school leaders, teachers, and OTs: https://disabilitylabs.com/calendar🎧 Prefer to Listen On the Go?SpotifyApple PodcastsAmazon/Audible🔗 Stay Connected🌐 Website: https://disabilitylabs.com/courses/mastery-math-bundle 📧 Disability Labs Community: https://disabilitylabs.com/community/3d-learning-lounge-1🎙️ Credits: Host: Cheri Dotterer Co-Host: Jonily Zupancic Production: Disability Labs Podcast Network🧠 Resources Mentioned:Mastery Math Method Level One (Lifetime Access): https://disabilitylabs.com/courses/mastery-math-bundleMastery Math Method Level Two (Annual Subscription): https://disabilitylabs.com/courses/mastery-math-method-group-coaching⚠️ Disclaimer: The content shared in this video is for educational purposes only and does not replace your district’s policies or individualized education plans. Always consult with your instructional team before implementing new strategies.🏷️ Hashtags#Tier1Interventions #MathIntervention #MasteryMathMethod #TeachingStrategies #SpecialEducation #MTSS #NeurodiverseLearning #Jonily #Cheri#MathEducation #TeacherLife #MasteryMath #Dysgraphia #Tier1Interventions #MathCoaching #Storytellinginmath

Hosts

Cheri Dotterer

Cheri Dotterer

Host of Tier 1 Interventions
Jonily Zupancic

Jonily Zupancic

Host of Tier 1 Interventions